Renee Silverman - A Lovely Ceremony

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you feel special and that she cared. Renee is the fairy god mother we all need. DFTW’s service has gone so far downhill and planning was a nightmare. Renee hugely cut down our stress and we knew no matter what, we had her and our perfect ceremony. DFTW’s should take note of her amazing and dedicated service to couples. She made us feel like our wedding was the only thing on her mind. We couldn’t be any happier. Thank you again!

emony was perfect and made for us. Renee is one of a kind.

Renee, not only listened to everything we wished to include in our ceremony, she was able to collaborate and ultimately ENHANCE our dream wedding. We made a friend through the process. If that does not say it all, we do not know what will. If only we could give more than 5 stars!!

response within the same day. Renee was very thorough and made planning a Disney wedding from Ohio a breeze! On the day of the ceremony, she spoke with my family and I and explained how the ceremony would go. She was very calm, never stopped smiling, and her directions were clear. My friends even commented that she was the perfect person to perform a Disney wedding because of her joyful spirit. Though I did not meet Renee until the day of the wedding, I felt like I had known her forever because of the frequent communication. Leading up to the ceremony, she gave us several options to choose from for our ceremony and took the time to get to know my Fiance and I. I would recommend Renee to anyone who is looking for someone to officiate their wedding. She was absolutely wonderful and my guests still speak positively about her a week after my wedding. I am so happy with my decision to choose Renee. She was a real-life Fairy Godmother! I truly never had to worry about a single detail of our ceremony throughout the entire planning process. I just felt like we were in good hands with Renee! She is WONDERFUL!

and I before the ceremony, she just knew exactly what to say to calm any nerves. Everyone said it was one of the most unique and touching ceremonies they had ever been to and I would have to agree. If you’re thinking about booking Renee, just do it. She will give you the gift of a beautiful ceremony that you can treasure for years and years to come!

asy for us to communicate and keep track of the updates. We wanted a lighthearted ceremony with fun and laughter and that's what we got! I received so many compliments on having her as our officiant for what she wrote and how she told it. As an added perk she helped guide us in applying for a marriage certificate and in changing my name afterwards. We are so glad we had her!

l conversation with her was so joyful and full of laughs. We knew before hanging up our phone that we wanted her for our ceremony. Renee gives you the choice to pick her wonderfully scripted ceremonies, or to work together to build your own. She has examples of vows you can use, or she'll assist you with your own if you choose to write them yourself! She made us feel so comfortable through the whole wedding process. And I cannot stress enough how awesome she is at answering emails- we would wait for weeks to hear back from Disney. But with Renee, we'd get a response the same or next day! As for our ceremony, we get to look back on the best day ever and remember it filled with so much love, and so much laughter! Renee even improvised a line at the end of our ceremony that emphasized how much humor and laughter meant to us because it was so evident to her. We loved that! Then she tops everything off with her magic wand- she's a true fairy godmother! We definitely, 100% recommend Renee!

tten ceremonies that we felt fit us, and she was great about allowing us to add in a few custom lines and change things here and there. A few weeks before the wedding day, we had a phone call with her to go over everything and make sure the details were finalized, and she was so encouraging during the call and made me feel confident that she had it all handled and that everything would go well! Her 1-2-3 steps that she told us really helped calm my nerves too! We didn't meet in person until the wedding day, but she was so warm and friendly that I felt like we had known her for a long time. She was so thorough with all the details and the ceremony went without a hitch. Thank you Renee for being an our officiant and making our big day feel extra special! :)

comments on our wedding vows. Renee is so kind, with a huge smile on her face, and would make any ceremony special. We would highly recommend working with her for your celebration - she is a wonderful officiant.

was on it. Informative emails, always sweet and courteous. Tons of information and suggestions that made everything go so much smoother. Everybody in our family just loved her to death. They raved about how great our ceremony was. I loved the options from different ceremonies that we could choose. And the Wand waving was just the cherry on top of the cake. She was so sweet before the wedding to give thoughtful suggestions to make the ceremony so much better. It really did help calm the wedding day nerves. I can't go on enough about how above and beyond she goes. From offers to print out our wedding vows for us, to sending us Post ceremony pictures to have until professional ones came in. She really is just Aces. If you're hung up on the price, just do it. You're not going to find a better officiant. She is worth absolutely every penny.

Renee is your person!

everal iterations on our ceremony until it was really felt like "us". She has a ton of great examples to look through and some creative options for vows. After the wedding we had several folks tell us that it was one of the best, if not the best, wedding ceremonies they had ever seen. Finally, can't forget the Fairy Godmother touch! It was the perfect addition to our Disney wedding and we couldn't be more grateful to have had Renee as our officiant.

ff a couple of her other options, with personal touches throughout. She did so amazingly, and had wonderful tips for us at our rehearsal and day of to keep us focused on each other and the moment at hand. Honestly can not recommend her enough, she was so amazing.

ght before we walked down the isle. The ceremony was magical. I really can’t stress enough how helpful, professional, as well as friendly and compassionate Renee is. HIGHLY recommend!

eone who understands what people are looking for- reach out to her!

ade the entire process so easy and fun. We really appreciated that she took the time to get to know us and valued making our ceremony about us. She added the perfect touch to our ceremony - the right mix of fun, whimsy, and magic, with the perfect level of seriousness worked in. My guests were absolutely "wowed" by what Renee added to our ceremony. We would absolutely work with her again and hope to have the opportunity to do so one day!

process, making sure we were happy with every single detail, and on wedding day it was absolutely beautiful. All our guests have said how amazing our ceremony was, and we have Renee to thank for all of it. We will forever remember our ceremony as the best part of the entire day.

ctly what to expect during the ceremony so we weren’t nervous. I have nothing but great things to say about Renee and would highly recommend her! She is so sweet and has such a positive attitude. We are so honoured that she was a part of our wedding.

rsonality. We never once felt pressured and you can tell she truly loves what she does. Throughout the planning process, Renee was so communicative - she didn't let anything slip through the cracks. The vows she has to choose from if you're not comfortable writing your own we're so spot on, our families were raving about how sweet it was that we wrote our own! After I spilled the beans, they couldn't believe we hadn't written them ourselves - they were that perfect. On the day of the wedding, she provided so much reassurance to calm our nerves (even to my husband as I walked down the aisle!). The ceremony was beautiful and our families commented on how perfect it was. So many people don't put a ton of thought into the actual ceremony. Renee was incredible and made our ceremony truly memorable for both us and our loved ones.

he way. She was in constant contact with me and kept me grounded. Meeting her the day of the wedding was like catching up with an old friend, she was kind, friendly and fun to be with, she made my daughter and son-in-law feel relaxed and special and made the ceremony truly all about them, they both loved having her perform the ceremony, we all feel we could not have done it without her.

and was nervous but I knew we were in good hands from all the good things we’ve heard. She made everything so easy. Loved that she helped with the license as well. I highly recommend Renee!

, and they weren’t for me, I got to Renee and knew she was the one! I sent the link to my now wife and she agreed! We exchanged emails and thankfully she was available our wedding day, she also scheduled a phone appointment with us as a get to know you, which we liked. Working with her was super easy, since we were in NJ- we were able to exchange emails and work on the ceremony via google.. before we knew it our day was here. To be honest, I didn’t feel stressed leading up to it, because Renee took care of all of it! And she was amazing! Our ceremony was perfectly catered to US, and more importantly my wife loved every minute of it, which is the most important thing! (Our guests enjoyed it too) I would recommend Renee no questions asked! You can tell she absolutely loves what she does, and she wants your ceremony to be about YOU! Thank you Renee !!

y as she made sure everyone was ready and had fun! And it was beautiful and full of love, laughter and happily ever after!!!! Renee is truly awesome!!!!!!!

ee provided many options and offered drafts and review sessions throughout. She even printed our vows for us so we would not have to worry about it the day of. Renee gave us wonderful tips on how to truly savor the moment and I'm so so glad we had her. Thank you Renee for a perfect beautiful day!

E process super easy, and made sure to include our 3 daughters throughout the process. The day of was truly MAGICAL because of her and her commitment to creating a beautiful ceremony. She was understanding when I wanted small tweaks to the ceremony and did not make me feel like a nuisance at all with any of my questions and emails. She was extremely supportive and seemed to know ALL the answers! She is truly a Fairy Godmother in real life! 1000% recommend!

ne interest in our story and our preferences. She worked with us to create a ceremony that included all of the components we were looking for and made the process as stress-free as possible. She even helped with coordinating the FL marriage license, which was huge for us since we live out of state. Although we weren't able to have a rehearsal for our ceremony Renee put us at ease in explaining exactly how the ceremony would run - if you plan to have a Disney wedding, Renee's vast experience in working in the various venues and with the coordinators is an asset. Prior to the ceremony, Renee gave us the best advice about what to do, where to look, and what to focus on which turned out to be so important because we were both so excited and nervous we did not remember much else! Renee's calm, reassuring, caring demeanor is amazing - she really is a real-life fairy godmother.

ough it countless times tweaking subtle wording and giving us tons of options and ideas. She even helped us each privately with our handwritten vows, which was an unexpected delight. During the rehearsal, she took charge and confidently explained the order of events from start to finish. On the day of our wedding, she added an immeasurable amount of pixie dust. Of course she has the adorable magic wand, but Renee herself is the real magic-maker. All of our guests couldn’t stop talking about how the real fairy godmother was our officiant. She helped guide us through the ceremony so seamlessly, despite our nerves. Our venue felt so filled with love, joy, and pure emotion thanks to her. We felt so cared for and we knew how much work she had put in to make our day so special. Look no further for your officiant.

fessional and is a pleasure to work with. She listens to what you want and learns about you as a couple. There are many officiants in Orlando but no one is as unique and special as she is!!!!!

ny because it was unique and you could really understand the couple for who they are. That's exactly what we wanted for ours and we're still getting compliments about how special the ceremony was! Renee worked with us every step of the way and emphasized a collaborative process which is crucial if you want to create a ceremony that is authentic to you. We had a handfasting ceremony sprinkled with our favorite nerdy moments and a heartfelt message to our family for bringing us together. It felt like us because it was us, and that's what weddings are about...celebrating your love and Renee makes sure that your day is just that. We are so grateful for Renee helping us put together the words to say how much we love and commit to each other. After working with Renee, I feel like all weddings should be tailored in this way so if you want something truly special and unforgettable then Renee is your person!

appen, Renee reached out and assured me she would be there if we kept the date, and would be there if we rescheduled. I almost cried when I read her sweet email. Leading up to then, she had been wonderful, answering all of my questions, putting together a beautiful ceremony script, and making the process of getting a Florida marriage license from 1,000 miles away simple and stress-free. On our wedding day, she was the perfect officiant, with her added touches that meant so much - without me having to think about it, she took care of finding a spot for my bouquet during the ceremony; she knew just when to step away for the photographer to get the perfect shot of our first kiss; she gave us tips that made for a better ceremony; the magic wand waving delighted my guests and everyone who saw photos of it afterward; and, most of all, she was a kind, warm, and reassuring presence from the moment I met her in the Boardwalk lobby. I cannot recommend Renee enough.

she made our day so very special. She tailored the wording of the ceremony to fit our new location and helped us to authentically express ourselves in our vows. We couldn’t have asked for more. From calming my husbands nerves, handing us tissues, and giving us beautiful advice, Renee is nothing short of amazing. She is a true professional who brings the magic. We loved having her officiate our marriage. Please book with her! We promise that you will not regret it! Love, The Bermudez family

s her so perfectly. So many weddings that I have previously attended can be a little drab but Renee makes sure to make everything extra special. She has many different ceremony styles to choose from and is willing to contour the ceremony to fit you exactly. My husband and I are Disney fanatics so we loved all the little references that were scattered into our ceremony. And the most special touch of all was the wave of her magic wand before pronouncing us husband and wife. Every single guest at our wedding made it a point to come up to us and compliment our ceremony and that is all thanks to Renee!

the very first time I saw her website I had a GREAT feeling about her. When I emailed her for a quote and to see if she was available for my date, she emailed me back in an extremely quick manner. In fact, every email was sent back quick, even though some of our discussions were quite lengthy! Her attention to detail and her genuine desire to help us have the best ceremony we could come up with made her SUCH a pleasure to work with. I would recommend her to everyone! Our ceremony went so smoothly and was just what we were looking for- something to remember forever. Thank you, thank you, thank you!!! ♡♡♡

our wedding was the best ceremony they'd ever been to, and although I may be a little biased - I have to say I agree! Go for the bespoke ceremony - worth every single penny! Xxx

ook care of the handling of the document so it was one less thing for us to worry about! She made me and my husband feel comfortable and took away a lot of our stress! I couldn't imagine my big day without her!

ing a relationship so that all feel comfortable during the process. Her suggestions of ceremony material are thoughtful and varied, and she welcomes active participation and feedback in crafting exactly the right words for the ceremony. We appreciated her open mindedness in understanding our preferences and goals in the ceremony creation. She is always prompt and professional in her communication. We had a great experience working together through Google Docs, and appreciated her many instances of reviews and edits to personalize things to the highest level. On the day of the wedding itself Renee truly excelled. Her warm demeanor and clear, confident cadence set the perfect tone for our ceremony. She came prepared when our tears started flowing, and helped encourage us both to relax and enjoy our moment fully. My wife and I are both so happy with the decision we made to work with Renee and are grateful for her special role in memories that will last a lifetime. Thank you, Renee!

love for Disney, we wanted someone who would embody the Disney spirit. First, we researched all of the officiants on the list- google searches, web sites, pictures- everything. Something about Renee stood out immediately. Her website really conveyed her excitement for what she does. Being one that exhausts every decision, I needed more. I emailed all of the officiants that were of interest. Their responses set them apart. They were all kind, but Renee's response had a warmth behind it. It was more than words in an email or a business transaction. In between the lines, you can really sense that Renee has a deep love and passion for what she does; she wants to make this day magical for you. Her emails were very detailed and thoughtful- she really has a desire to make that connection with couples. In the spirit of Disney, I said to my fiancé "she reminds me of the Fairy Godmother...I think I want her." He agreed. We scheduled a phone call with her, and she thoroughly went over every detail of the ceremony, fine-tuning it to personalize everything to US. She had so much to offer that we didn't even think of! The 3 of us talked for well over an hour, and even though it was our first phone conversation, it felt as if we'd known her for years. She made us feel so comfortable and reassured. Until that point, the wedding was just a list of things we had chosen through Disney's coordinator- but Renee brought it to life and got us even more excited! She made it more real in that phone call. As the wedding approached, she was in constant contact- reminding us of important dates, keeping us informed on everything we needed, even helping us pick out elements for our ceremony when we were unsure. And then the actual day came. I emailed her the morning of with a little freak-out moment. She called me immediately to offer reassurance and answer all of my questions until I was comfortable. We finally met that afternoon right before the ceremony. It didn't even feel like a first meeting because we had gotten to know each other so well over the months prior. The ceremony was obviously perfection and Renee performed it effortlessly. Some of the guests had roles in the ceremony, and beforehand, Renee was sure to go over everything carefully with them to make sure it was seamless. I was so worried they would arrive and be confused about what to do, but Renee made sure she talked to them and explain everything so they would be comfortable. I've never said to other people after their wedding "wow, we really liked your officiant," but the days following the wedding, we received so many comments from our guests about how much they loved Renee. We're so grateful that Renee officiated our ceremony. She is not only a great officiant, but a kind, genuine, soul.

time to make the ceremony just right for us. She spent time with each of us before the wedding to give us tips on how to get the most out of the ceremony. I think it was the little extra bits like this that really made the ceremony magical for us. She was very helpful in coordinating every detail before the wedding, from creating our ceremony to getting the marriage license. The day of the wedding went amazing. She is very familiar with the Disney weddings, so we could relax completely knowing she had all of the logistical details (where to meet us, the coordinator we were working with, etc.) taken care of. The ceremony itself was perfect, but it was all of these other little things that really made working with her such a joy.

n @ A Lovely Ceremony. I'm religious and my (now) husband is Agnostic, so we wanted a ceremony that could be tailored to our needs and completely customizable. After receiving our first email from Renee, I knew she was the one ;-) I felt like she really took the time to ask about our relationship and hear our story because she genuinely cares about her couples! She kept communication with me throughout the entire planning process and made sure we were on time with getting the legal process taken care of. I really appreciate this, because the closer you get to the wedding day, the more tasks you have to complete and little things can get forgotten or missed! After communicating for months via email, we finally were able to meet at the Wedding Rehearsal and instantly I knew we made the right decision! Renee has such a calming voice in the midst of all the chaos and gave me the best advice for the big day. Because of her, I was able to remain calm at the altar, look into my husband's eyes and take it all in. I did not see anyone else in those moments, which is a gift I will forever cherish and never forget. My wedding party and guests had nothing but great things to say... My planner and photographers love working with her for Disney Weddings! ... My husband says she made him laugh ;-) We both absolutely adore you, Renee, and can't thank you enough for joining us for such a special occasion! We look forward to planning a vow renewal in the future years with you! Thank you so much for everything!

together. She can be as creative, funny, or serious as you want. And you can add whatever elements or events you want. The sky was the limit while we spent the 12 months before our wedding working together to craft something that ended up feeling so uniquely us. The process was so easy and fun. Renee took care of everything, was so quick to respond to every email, and was also so quick in her ability to present us wonderful and well-written drafts. She was always great at initiating conversations with us throughout the year, always checking in every couple weeks to see how we were doing. Renee also guided us through the marriage license process, and despite the fact that we are from New York and had to do it all through mail, she made it all so easy to understand and complete. My fiancé (at the time) asked Renee for advice while he wrote his own vows, and she helped him through it with helpful suggestions, which resulted in an absolutely beautiful piece that came from his heart. Renee is incredibly generous, compassionate and patient, and it showed through in the way she spoke at our ceremony. Not only did Jeremy and I love how it all turned out, but we also received a lot of compliments from our guests that really appreciated how personal and unique our ceremony was and how they really enjoyed Renee’s presentation of it all. It’s common to not put a lot of planning and attention into the ceremony, but I highly recommend that you work with Renee because you will soon realize how much the ceremony can greatly enhance your day. She helped us create something unforgettable that ended up being our favorite part of the day.

nee’s help. She was fantastic. Meeting her at the wedding was lovely, she’s such a heartfelt person and involved my 7 year old as much as possible which was fantastic as I couldn’t have asked for anything more. The words read at our wedding were beautiful and I am so glad we picked Renee, she was such a special part of our day. Thank you Renee.

ith Renee, she seemed genuinely excited to work with us. Renee thoroughly explained the different packages to us but was never pushy one way or the other, which we really appreciated. Once it was time to actually move forward with the marriage license process, Renee was helpful beyond belief. Being that we were getting married in Florida but living in New York, her step by step guidance streamlined the process and made it easier than we could have ever imagined. During our rehearsal, Renee walked us through our ceremony and gave everyone helpful tips for making the ceremony seamless. The same can be said for the big day - Renee was a joy to work with and we are so happy we chose her to be a part of our special day!

ffered excellent guidance on a secular ketubah and on the process for our marriage license. Any time we sent an email we heard back from her within a day (sometimes within an hour!) and her responses were always thorough and helpful. Do yourself a favor and pick Renee for your officiant!

ect!’ How right were we! Renee spent a lot of time with us going through every little detail for the ceremony and also getting to know the two of us. Our ceremony was tailor made and had some ‘moments’ which all turned out perfectly on the day. One thing that really struck us was how calming Renee is. A wedding can be a nervous moment but having our ‘Fairy Godmother’ :-) running the show, we had nothing to worry about! I really can’t recommend Renee enough, an absolute pleasure to work with and the perfect person to deliver our ceremony. We had such a good time on our journey putting all the details together. We can’t wait for the video to be produced and sent to us to watch it all back, it truly was a fairytale day. Thank you so much, you really contributed massively in giving us our perfect day.

She reminded us of Cinderella's godmother and she even has a magic wand!!!! For all of the young brides to be and for vow renewals, we HIGHLY recommend Renee. We think the world of her!!!!!!! Her dedication and love for her work is exemplary!!!!!!

lt as if we had had numerous in person meetings. The best part was Renee surprising us with some wording from our favorite Disney movie "Frozen" at the end of our ceremony (the exact same wording happened to be on our cake topper!). This really made our ceremony that much more special and personal. Anyone who chooses Renee to be their wedding day officiant will not be disappointed; she puts in the time and effort to make sure your ceremony is personal, meaningful, and certainly unforgettable! Thank you Renee!

thank Renee enough to add our special touches and make this so special.

ross her website. The variety she offered, and that magic wand, made me SO excited for the possibilities for our ceremony. Renee quickly set us up with a phone consultation. During that two-hour conversation (sorry that I ramble when I’m both excited and nervous, Renee!), it became evident to my fiancé and I that Renee would be far more than a trusted officiant for us- she quickly became a trusted friend in our planning process. She had genuine excitement when discussing our day- something our own families often lacked. We wanted a unique ceremony, one that tied us together not just with each other but with our little one as well. Prior to the phone consultation, I had been burning my fingertips off frantically scrolling Pinterest for ideas. Renee put an abrupt stop to that stress. She assured me she would handle all of the research and idea creations. I put my faith in her and stopped stressing about it. She also provided us honest, useful recommendations for other vendors we were struggling to choose and walked us through the process to attain our marriage license. She made wedding planning fun, something else everyone before her had failed to do for me. With her guidance, we attained our marriage license and had it mailed to her (so awesome not having to stress about remembering it on the busy wedding morning). Renee was at our venue early when I arrived. She gave me the best hug I ever received, like a long-lost friend I hadn’t seen on ages, and spoke with me- calming all of my jitters. She helped coordinate the ceremony with our Disney planner and photography team. As I prepared to walk down the aisle, she appeared to tell me a little story about how I was marrying the right man- while I was sure of that long before it was time to walk down the aisle, to have someone stop me right before the big moment and remind me what it was all about to begin with meant the world to me. She delivered a FLAWLESS ceremony- one that brought my little family together officially. It was so beautiful. Just re-living it in my memory brings a fond tear to my eye. Ending the ceremony with the wand was such a magical surprise for all of our unsuspecting guests (highly recommend it)! If you are in need of an officiant for your special day, book Renee today before the next lucky bride gets her- you will not be disappointed!!!

fect words for our ceremony. She offered to help us personalize our vows and gave us all the direction we needed for getting our marriage license figured out. On our wedding day, we had terrible weather - so bad that many of our guests were getting tornado warning alerts on their cell phones. Needless to say, we were panicked that everything was delayed because of the rain but Renee was able to calm our nerves and by the time she started our ceremony, we had completely forgotten it was raining. Our ceremony was beyond perfect and our guests continue to rave to us about the amazing little fairy godmother that married us. Thank you so much for everything Renee! Love, Alexis & Miranda

of our lives seamless and full of love! We could never thank her enough!

ldn’t be happier with our decision. Her voice (so warm and welcoming) and pace during the ceremony was perfect. As a bonus, she shared some great advice and encouraging words to help calm our nerves. She was fun to work with and we received so many compliments from our guests. If we could do it all over again, we would hire her in a heartbeat. Renee, thank you for helping make our day magical!

t of people while sharing a very personal moment. Working with Renee was an absolute pleasure--she put us at ease and gave us advice to help calm our nerves. She was always quick in answering any of our frequent questions and had a calm confidence that put us both at ease. I cannot recommend her highly enough.

y I was put in contact with her. The time and effort Renee gives to making sure the ceremony is exactly what you envision is unprecedented. Whatever anxiety we may have had at rehearsal about the wedding was put to rest that evening in large part because of Renee; her directions and tips for the ceremony made all the difference in the world. The actual ceremony was perfect- it felt as though a family friend who has known my husband and I our entire lives was marrying us. Everyone who attended the wedding was wildly impressed with how personal and natural feeling the ceremony was. I just cannot imagine the day and Renee not being a part of it -- my husband and I feel so thankful our memories of that day include her! We WHOLEHEARTEDLY recommend Renee --- you will not be disappointed.

n by watching past weddings in the area that had videos captured of their ceremonies. As soon as we watched one with Renee as the officiant, we knew we had to "meet" her. We were able to set up a facetime meeting, and instantly knew she had the exact passion and joy for what she did, and was more than willing to incorporate the extra Disney touches we wanted for our special day. We were so excited that it would not be just your average ceremony, and one of the most anticipated parts of our day (aside from becoming husband and wife) was her Magic Wand finale that none of guests knew was coming. Not only did we get married at the most magical place on Earth, but we had Renee, our very own Fairy Godmother, there to make our Fairytale complete!

n) and has them ready for you so it’s ones less thing for you to worry about, she’s prompt at getting back to your emails, she’s knowledgeable about the marriage license progress, etc. I could go on, but my husband and I were so happy with our experience with her. We received compliments on our ceremony all night on our wedding night. Thank you for everything Renee!!

and I will hire her again for vow renewal in the future!